Is Russia, NK and China communist countries?
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Thread Topic: Is Russia, NK and China communist countries?
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It’s quiz time! Tell me what you know and why so
Is this a trick question or am I just totally unaware -
I don't think China or Russia are communist countries. Not sure about North Korea tho
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I would say they all are, but China definitely less than Russia or North Korea. North Korea is the worst out of all of them by far.
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North Korea is definitely a communist country
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I think China just has insanely strict rules and that it's not a communist country, but I may be wrong.
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^Yeah, that's what I've heard too, although I think it's gone so far that they're in the communist grey area (That's just what I've heard about the situation)
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North Korea is a communist country 100%. China is also communist. Surprisingly, Russia is not communist. They used to be when they were the Soviet Union, but that collapsed in the ‘90s.
I think when we hear “communist,” we think of North Korea because they are closed borders and like the extreme case of communism whereas with China, we’re still able to trade and visit and live in the country, so sometimes people get confused as to if they’re a communist country or not, but they are.
There are five countries that have communism as their official form of government: China, North Korea, Laos, Cuba, and Vietnam -
Interestingly enough I would debate that none of the above is communist in any sense nor has ever been truly communist.
Now, to be a defined communist country is to be a country without:
1) money
2) state
3) property
4) class
This is the very structure of communism as it was designed to be at its base level. None of the above have truly achieved this. At all. I would hardly consider any country above to be a representation of true communism. Nor any country to exist today that I could be aware of. Communism is any interesting paradigm that is so often spoken about and leered upon yet never truly existed to be seen. You have likely never seen a communist country and you likely never will. Todays world relies on other methods of working far too much for a whole random country to switch around to true communism so easily. Communism simply does not exist beyond the idea or hopeful dreams in achieving it -
What most people define as communism today is really fascism
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I agree with Acrimony 100%. They are all authoritarian regimes which is naturally antithetical to the idea of proletariat control over state powers. They vaguely dog whistle to certain communist & socialist ideas in certain policies they hold but I don't think anyone in China or NK would argue they as workers control the means of production.
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Mintvoyager, how is your logic here different from capitalism supporters who insist that America's economy is not a "real" free market whenever the pitfalls of our economic system are pointed out to them? Referring to the relationship of the People's Republic of China with communism as a "vague dog whistle" is, to be frank, incredibly silly.
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The difference is America is a capitalist country that blames its problems on the free market, while China is also a capitalist country that people blame it's problems on communism.
China is as much communist as North Korea is the people's democracy.
The reason China calls itself communist is because it was economically communist during the mid century. After Mao's death, his opposition moved towards the China we know today: Capitalist in terms of economic policy, while maintaining the authoritarian social controls we've come to associate with Communist governments.
In the words of Deng, "I don't care if a cat is black or white as long as it catches mice." Basically, they kept the moniker of communism because it was convenient to the Chinese government, despite retaining no distinguishable characteristics of communism or Marxism.
In communism, there is no government and no money. Communism can not be authoritarian; it would be an oxymoron. China is Totalitarian as was Soviet Union and Nazi Germany, all inherently antithetical to Communism. It is a fascist country with a state-capitalist economy.
As acrimony said, most modern leftists see true communism as an whimsical pipedream-too far away to be actually achieved by any means under the current global economic climate. -
I'm going to have to step out of this thread now as I don't know enough rhetoric or policy history to defend my point further. I hope what I said made sense. I'm not interested in arguing over economic systems further as it's not my wheelhouse, but did want to express why I made my original point since you asked.
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Wait my home country is communist?!!(china)
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