Thread Topic: Opinions
Are you pro-choice, or pro-life? And why? I'm curious tbh.
I was at work today and the subject came up and oddly enough I was the only pro-life kid. I mean me and coworkers are all cool with each other, so none of us argue about it or anything, but now I'm just curious to see how everyone views the topic of abortion.
Puppet master12 Hot ShotPro-Choice, for one thing the adoption system in most countries is s---, and those poor kids never get adopted, and not always by good families.
I don’t see why someone should be forced to carry a child , they can’t look after, for nine months.
It’s different if this is someone just having a bunch of sex and not using birth control, that’s disgusting.
It’s a different matter on health issues, rape, young age, and a bunch of other things.
A women should be allowed to choose what happens with her body, and yes in a perfect world she and the father would come to an agreement, but in the end she is the one going through a s--- ton of issues to have the child, just to have it put into a broken system.
Pregnancy resulting from rape is a very small percentage and the majority of abortions are not from females who have been raped.
If you had consensual sex, then you should've known that a pregnancy could've happened. Use contraceptives people if you're going to be having sex.
Totally agree with all women should be allowed to choose what happens to her body (as should all men too/people in general). However, it is not just her body. She is terminating another life/body. She is terminating a unique set of genes that determine height, hair color, everything. It's a person. Everyone deserves a chance at life and we should not make the decision on who gets to keep their life or not just because you think their quality of life will be lowered because that's really f---ed up. Why aren't we just killing all of the orphans then since they clearly aren't living what we consider a good life? If a pregnant lady is killed, it's considered a double homicide. But aborting and ending a life is seen as okay?
Yeah I agree with Night Owl for those same reasons.
Hiccstrid SeniorNight Owl is spot on. I know that I stand in the minority here, but I believe that in most cases, abortion is wrong. I understand that in the case of rape or some other instances, abortion perhaps could be justified. I absolutely understand that. But most of the time, people just can't keep their genitals to themselves, and so teenaged girls end up pregnant and don't want to take responsibility for their lack of self-control in the sexual department. So they make up excuses for why abortion is okay, and why a "fetus" isn't a human being until it leaves the womb, and why a woman should have control over her own body, etc. I don't mean to offend anyone, but that is 100% CRAP. Instead of trying to explain away how abortion is okay, how about cracking down on unprotected sex? Perhaps Coach Carr was right after all.
Even if a baby is worth no more than an animal before it leaves the womb, why aren't animal rights activists stepping up for unborn babies? Yes, let's ban plastic bags to save the stupid dolphins, but use tax money to kill as many human beings as you want. That totally makes sense.
I get that people often choose abortion because their baby will likely have a horrendous life if they're born, but that's no excuse. Why not give them a chance? Who knows what could happen? Both of my siblings were adopted from awful situations. They were absolute tyrants and I wanted to strangle them every single day while they lived at home, but they're still part of my family and at least they're alive. At least their birth parents gave them a chance.
I apologize for not being open-minded, and I apologize if I've offended anyone, but abortion is a very sensitive topic for me and sometimes talking about it makes me fly off the handle a little. If you're pro-choice, I don't think any less of you. I'm more angry with the agenda that Planned Parenthood spreads, than with the general public who believes it.
I think the only time abortion is okay is when labor puts the woman's life in danger so no I'm not pro choice
Other than that there was a time when abortions didn't exist. Women dealt with it then. Why do a lot now feel suddenly privileged?
breadboy69 AdvancedThere was a time when electricity didn't exist. People dealt with it then. Why do a lot now feel suddenly privileged?
That statement can be applied to a lot of different things. But with more advancements to medicine and technology, it's possible for us to live better lives with these new things they didn't have long ago. So just because it's new doesn't mean people "feel suddenly privileged" for using it
I think we should stay off the topic of the "that statement can be used for multiple things" because this thread is about abortion and whether you think it's right or wrong.
Now, if you're claiming that because of abortions, people can have better lives (from when you said "but with more advancements to medicine and technology, it's possible for us to live better lives with these new things they didn't have long ago"), then that still pertains to this thread. And I will argue that that's pretty hypocritical because that baby that was just killed/aborted did not get the chance to have a life and that's seen as being a better life? Also, most women who get abortions end up regretting it afterwards and go into depression, which doesn't sound like a better life to me.
The difference between an abortion and electricity is that electricity wasn't controversial at the time of whenever it was discovered as it was widely more safer then using fire to light up a room.
An abortion is a controversial political issue. my point is so many people are able to give birth to children. I get it I'm not a woman and I what I do know is that plenty on top of Plenty of women have been going through it; rape case or not, failed birth control or not, broken condom or not.
Abortion is considered a privilege whether it's a bad privilege or a good privilege is in matters of the person. people are able to choose if they want it or not depending on where they are.
In "most" cases I personally believe that it should not exist .
Birth control I could care less about though
The Actual Boss Advancedi agree with d_h
I forgot I made this thread
I'd link an animated video from Youtube that shows what an abortion actually is, but I would break the forum rules for posting gory images.
A unique human being with its own DNA is formed at conception. The heart starts beating about six weeks later.
I can't believe we live in a time where late term abortion and killing babies born from failed abortions are positions that politicians literally defend. That someone supposedly "moderate" like Joe Biden has come out against the Hyde Amendment.
Whenever a society stops valuing the weakest, whether it be children, the disabled, the sick, the elderly, or what have you, no one is safe.
I think I should add something though.
I'm skeptical that making laws will change things. Prohibition only causes people to want to do the thing prohibited. What really makes a difference is when hearts change and choose not to do something.
The 1904/1905 Welsh revival caused bars and pubs to shut down, not because they were illegal, but because people just stopped going to them.
I think the Pro-life movement will make the most difference if it continues to show the reality of abortion, as well as focuses on helping women and healing those who regret their abortions.
The Coldest Sun Hot ShotI'm pro-choice, for all the standard reasons. Everyone's heard every point either side has to make, and no one's changing their minds, so I'm not gonna take the time to type up my argument on this s---ty phone keyboard.
I'd say I agree with Anastasia, especially about how it would be better to simply inform one another about the realities of abortion, and on how other solutions can be made to help women.
But Coldest Sun is right about how most people will not change their minds, despite everything we all can argue about. I'm certainly not going to try and change any pro-choice people out there.
But I know there are women who were so grateful they never had an abortion. One lady I know has a medical condition that should she ever get pregnant, then she could be in real danger of her losing her life. But she got married, and then she did get pregnant. And the doctors were checking up on her so much, but as time went on, they were telling her to abort or else she would lose her life. I know there are a lot of Christians who think it's okay to abort if the mother is going to die, but this woman said no, she wasn't going to abort. She prayed about it, and when the time came, she delivered a perfectly healthy baby, and she was perfectly fine herself. She trusted God. So personally, even if the mother could lose her life, I still would not abort.
Although even if I weren't Christian, I'd still be pro-life.