Feminists.
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Thread Topic: Feminists.
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While I do not read every news item nor do I watch every talking head on cable news, I honestly cannot remember ever hearing anyone excuse a man for raping a woman in my lifetime. Ever. Not in the United States. Not in Australia. Not even in Best Korea. Not once. Not ever.
Our culture portrays rape as one of the most heinous crimes that can be perpetrated against women and girls by men and boys. You can't deny this.
A single example is not evidence, it's an outlier. The fact that every other media station was horrified at CNN only shows that as a culture, we're against rape. HOW SHOCKING. Hell, that fact that everyone was shocked at Steubinville only proves my case.
As for victim blaming...there's no easy way to say this, sometimes the victim is in the wrong. If someone leaves their car unlocked and it gets stolen, we call him an idiot for not protecting himself. If someone gets mugged while wearing a fancy suit on the wrong side of town, we laugh at him. Same theory. If you do not take steps to prevent tragedy, tragedy can strike. And you will be partially responsible for it.
And you can cry all you want about 'but I was drunk' or 'but I can walk anywhere I want,' but you're still responsible for your actions. If you willingly lower your inhibitions, you are contributing to whatever happens.
This could come out easier, but I can't care at 3:30 in the morning.
Also, I know the links were mine. The point I was trying to make was that the links DISPROVED RAPE CULTURE. -
Yes, I mentioned the Steubenville case in my earlier post. But one outlier does not make a pattern, and the fact that most media stations were shocked at the CNN report, and the fact that most of America was shocked at the Steubenville case, shows that there's no such thing as rape culture. What about the dozens and dozens of rapists who are being demonized right now? What about god damn Elliot Rogers, who's currently worse than Hitler, if I'm being well read enough? An exception to the pattern does not create its own pattern.
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Are you reading these demonizations from feminist sources?
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Actually there is a bit of a rape culture.
On twitter a s--- ton of idiotic teenagers were posting 'You should be happy someone went to jail just to f--- you xD'
Something along those lines. -
Women are better off than they were 50 years ago, certainly. And you can thank feminists for that.
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The only problem I have with feminist is how they treat men as a whole. Like 'men should all die, all men are rapist' some even say that if their child was a male they would abort it(they have that choice but it's f---ed up because the only reason why is the gender). That pisses me off so badly.
Equality sounds better anyway. -
Nah, Appa, reading 'em from mainstream media sources. I think it's really brave, you know? Because so many people support rape, it's fresh to see someone against it.
Shido, when your argument relies on rebellious teenagers being rebellious, and you can't even provide a source (not that I doubt one exists,) maybe it's not so solid to begin with. That's common teenager behavior that's been happening since the beginning of time. It's not 'rape culture,' it's idiotic teenagers being idiotic, hardly an indication of culture. -
(Insert smart comment here)
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One thing. One thing, IHLAOY. You are extremely logical, like, a perfect challenge for barberbob (Some-times I think you're his multi), but at times you can be stubborn. A side-effect of being logical and intelligent, I s'pose.
"As for victim blaming...there's no easy way to say this, sometimes the victim is in the wrong. If someone leaves their car unlocked and it gets stolen, we call him an idiot for not protecting himself. If someone gets mugged while wearing a fancy suit on the wrong side of town, we laugh at him. Same theory. If you do not take steps to prevent tragedy, tragedy can strike. And you will be partially responsible for it."
This is moderately only looking at the fault of the victim. Even if a person purposely leaves their car unlocked, or a woman wears a very skimpy attire purposely to garner 'looks', or a person purposely wears a very fancy suit with a wallet literally spouting 50$ bills, they are being foolish.
But then again, how can the criminal who would commit such a crime be available to successfully go through the action? 'Course, then again, you never did say they weren't to be held responsible.
But, what if those people didn't have much-a choice? What if the person forgot to lock their car. What if she couldn't -- Wait, no, that's just being a slut. What if the fancy guy actually tried to hid his wallet, but did not see how bad the area was? The fore-sight, man. -
Nah, me and Barber see eye to eye, but we're completely separate people.
I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say though. I'm going to assume you're making an argument based on someone trying to protect themselves and it still not working.
In that case, I'll admit, yes, the victim is not at fault. But that's not the argument. The argument is that if you purposefully don't make any attempt to protect yourself, you're partially to blame for any trouble you find yourself in. This is the idea that victim blaming is built around. Blaming someone for not protecting themselves. If you've protected yourself, then there can be no victim blaming, because you've done all you can. -
Victim blaming is the most ridiculous bulls--- that can be conceived in a deluded person's mind.
*Insert multiple paragraphs that oversimplify a single sentence so as to look like a profound and enlightened individual* -
s---ty tumblr vs /pol/ thread
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-implying providing evidence, reasoning and sources is oversimplifying
-implying /pol/ isn't s---
-implying the thread wasn't over before you came in -
Damn, them green texts. You really showed me.
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Actually I do have evidence, look at the goddamn world around you. Actually look for once.
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