Your God is your ultimate barrier to finding the Godhead.
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Greatest I am NewbieYour God is your ultimate barrier to finding the Godhead.
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The Jews, the true authority and interpreters of Eden, saw mankinds gain of knowledge as an elevation in their struggle to understand God. Israel [as understood by Hebrews, = he strives with God]. Strive can be read as to mean to work either with or against. Jews equated God more with a source of knowledge than a source of command that must be obeyed. This is shown by archetypal Moses ignoring Gods law of divorce.
Being a Gnostic Christian, my view goes to following the Jewish view for two basic reasons. They have more authority over the O. T. than Christians and secondly, they give our creation, beginning and God a happy ending for our passage through Eden. True evil had yet to manifest itself to that point in time.
Christians on the other hand, with their view of Eden as mans fall, cannot see a perfect heaven without evil. God fails on this issue and admits it by casting Satan out.
Christians cannot see a perfect Eden on earth without evil. God fails on this issue and admits it by casting Adam and Eve out.
In Noahs day, God repented from his sins. He missed the mark and admits it by destroying most of mankind and animal kind with an immoral genocide. God fails on this issue as well.
Did the Jews win in their striving against God to a point where they could judge him?
I think so thanks to Moses and the divorce laws.
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We cannot today know why Christianity reversed some of the Jewish thinking when embracing the O. T. and its God and going from mans elevation to mans fall.
Should Christians consider following that good Jewish example and do as other cultures have done as shown by Joseph Campbell and seek a messiah the way most Jews do?
If not, then Christians will have to learn to live in a world where their God can be accurately described like this.
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.
Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion
Dawkins and most Jews call the bible fiction. Jews can thus get around this accurate description of God by just admitting the truth. It is all myth and metaphor. Literalist and fundamental Christians cannot and I think that over time this rather ugly God will kill Christianity.
At one time the Christian God of the gaps may have had a role to play for us but man has moved on. Christians should perhaps do the same and seek their true God.
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Thank you for quoting a few youtube videos. I've seen most of those before. I support what you're trying to do, but write your own material.
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Greatest I am NewbieThey are supplements and are more entertaining than just reading. I usually do not let them stand alone.
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solitary_atheist NewbieIt is rather hard to see what your point is. I can understand, but not very well. You need to narrate your quotes more so we can see your objective. Well thought, though. Just some constuctive critism.
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Greatest I am NewbieThe main point is that God is to be mastered, not God mastering man.
Man created God to manipulate and control other men.
It is time to reverse that idiotic trend.
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solitary_atheist NewbieQuite so. Thank you for clearing it up a bit.
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so your saying that Man created God?
well then if that is so...
how in the world was earth created?
did we create it?
if we did...then that would have been recorded dont you think? but it isnt...plus it says that "God created the heavens and earth....including humans and animals"....now thats recorded....
then now that you think about it....
how in the world can we create something that already exist?
im just making a stament here
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Greatest I am NewbieEver hear of evolution.
Who but man can put voice to the will of God?
No one but a man.
As to your miracle working absentee super wish list God that man created.
All you have is hearsay friend. Not much to hang your soul on is it?
Seek within for proof of the reality that you, as Jesus said, are a son of God.
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dude ur not making a lick of sence.....
and stop puting up the urls....no one will be able to watch them....
an another thing...
if you want to question God then you might wanna keep that to yourself........ppl can get quite offended.........and if you want to question him....wh on earth do you have Greatest I am as a username when God himself says that is one of his names??
just saying
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Greatest I am NewbieYes. Christians would love it if no one challenged their delusional thinking.
If you do not want to recognize the crap you believe as crap then stay away from those who know crap when they see it.
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hmm....good advice...i guess im going to have to stay away from you and your crap
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LetsParty NewbieDl: everything you say is wrong. kierra is NOT a heratic.
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Greatest I am NewbieOk.
Just delusional.
All who believe in an invisible super daddy are.
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I agree with Kierra on the fact that GIA is hard to understand and that the links are unreadable.
But unlike Kierra, I actually took the time to see GIA's side. And while we may disagree on one core ideal, right now our motives are the same, so I will support him for the time being. I would love to sit down and debate with him myself someday.
Anyway, back to the story. Kierra, the burden of proof lies with the one making the claim. GIA is showing his proof by dismantling yours. He is pointing out flaws and egotism in your god to support his claims. You on the other hand are not presenting any viable proof. You are simply stating that he is wrong and full of crap. Until you actually can defend your claim, your argument holds no weight.
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