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The actual operation manuals for death camp furnaces. And the layouts of the camps themselves.
Also, mass burials were found.
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You know, there is such a thing as propaganda. Also, the 50's had a photoshop too.
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Hitler personally mentions his plans for mass exterminations with his higher ranking generals. As well as quotes and testimonies of his generals and soldiers. Mass graves were found. There are eye witness testimonies of freed jews. And the chemical traces found in their mass shower rooms.
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And for that very reason, why are you listening to books written at that time, and the Jewish consensus. Nothing you've said has any more validity than my most basic explanations. And with the logic you are using, coupled with the instruction manuals and layouts of the camps, your own initial math has backfired on you.
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"The most substantial proof that the holocaust is a lie is that there are survivors."
Yet there is no official British, nor US records remotely pointing to mass extermination or torture. -
I'm also waiting for you to prove this 12 million figure, Mr. Impeccable. The 12 million is most often still referenced in everything holocaust related.
So far we're up to 8,750,000 deaths. -
"The most substantial proof that the holocaust is a lie is that there are survivors."
Yes, there were survivors. Why wouldn't there be survivors? Most of the people there were used as a work force. Underfed, and poorly treated, but still a work force. Why wouldn't there be survivors?
And I suggest you check out for actual historical evidence. Do your research before you make arrogant and ignorant claims. -
The 12 million, is an estimation given of the total Jewish death count through all of WWII. This is including riots in the streets, public executions, being worked to death, medical experimentation, gas chambers, and incinerators.
While it isn't a precise number, given all of the variables listed above, it is recognized as the most probably and widely accepted estimate. -
Based on a. German census, to even remotely HAVE 6 million Jews in Auschwitz, the mothers would need to give birth to 13 children per family. 13? That's likely..
Can you see that, Bob? 13?
"Yes, there were survivors. Why wouldn't there be survivors? Most of the people there were used as a work force. Underfed, and poorly treated, but still a work force. Why wouldn't there be survivors?"
Need I say again, Red Cross visited Auschwitz and they found nothing wrong. They saw that it was a prison camp where the prisoners where treated fair and they did get enough food to be healthy. -
Ahem. Propaganda~ As you can see, in US intelligence there is no proof of the Holocaust. In the Jewish Community, THERE WERE NO 6 MILLION DEATHS. Red cross couldn't find anything. Neither could Churchill.
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On your first point, that is considering that all 6 million were there at once, not over the course of 4 years as you previously stated. And it's also requiring that 6 million are newborns and not already out there. There were already more than 6 million jews in the world. They didn't need to produce more just to fill in the camps.
You are basing your second point off of the "OK" given by a team going to search for inhumane treatment in an enemy POW camp. And you are honestly saying that because THEY didn't see anything, that the camps were alright without a shadow of a doubt? That's stretching it. REALLY FAR. I can invite you to my house, and as long as I just show you the kitchen, would you deem the entire house safe? Hell, would you deem the entire kitchen safe? I could easily hide something in the oven (bad joke). The fact is, if the Red Cross went in to try and find something bad with the camps, the Germans would have hidden the bad parts. It wouldn't be that hard to do. Increase rations for a couple weeks. Lesson working conditions. Don't give them a tour near the ovens. Simple stuff that you are completely disregarding in your own delusional hero worship. It's pathetic. -
Its not like you can HIDE OR KEEP GAS CHAMBERS AND INCINERATORS a secret. It's not like you can keep things that cause mass death a secret. In fact, the alleged incinerators had THEIR OWN BUILDING! It's not as if you can go "Oh yeah, hey, you can't go in that building over there." Of course that would come of as suspicious.
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And you honestly think that people aren't compitant enough not to keep their skeleton in the closet under the radar. Give the tour, smile and make everyone look happy, show them the "good" barracks, and don't draw attention to the buildings over here.
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Ozze, may I ask on a personal level, why do you want so badly to believe the Holocaust didn't happen? Do you actually hate Jews now? Or is it to make Hitler not look as bad as he's portrayed? :I
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hero worship?
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