I have a few questions for people who are Pro-Choice
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Thread Topic: I have a few questions for people who are Pro-Choice
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SprinkledSpice: but if a family member of yours is in a coma, and you KNOW they'll be a perfectly functional human being in 9 months, would you have them killed?
I feel like this is a bad analogy. Pregnancy isn't something that is easy, nor completely safe. There are many risks involved. Some people do get abortions because they don't want children (which is completely okay), but what most people who are Pro-Life don't realize are the ectopic pregnancies, preeclampsia and other things that factor into a woman having an abortion. Those things are life threatening and can kill said mother and child.
getting pregnant is a result of the woman's actions.
No, a woman getting pregnant is the result of both a male and female.
For rape victims, I know it must be horrible to become pregnant with a person who violated your rights, but your child deserves rights too.
So you are telling me the eleven year old girl who got raped that was in the news a while back needed to deliver her rapists baby? That girl was eleven years old. She is not mentally, physically or emotionally ready to have a child.
A fetus will not remember anything in the womb. None of you do, and you all were a fetus as some point. Not enough scientific data has been collected to prove a fetus can, or cannot feel pain. -
I'll be honest, I totally forgot about this thread and I'll try to respond tomorrow if I have time. But if just like to reiterate what I said in my first post:
Okay, let's first just exclude the argument of getting pregnant resulting from rape or incest because I can totally see how you would be Pro-Choice in those scenarios. I'm also not going to be talking about having an abortion when the mother's life is at risk because I understand why they would go through with an abortion then and that's a very heartbreaking situation. I'm going to be talking about adults who consented to having sex and got pregnant and then had an abortion (because that's the majority of abortions).
People that are Pro-Life 100% agree that it's okay to have an abortion when the mother's life is at risk (at least everyone that I've met has been) and we recognize that that's a tragedy to lose your child that way and are completely sympathetic towards that family. -
I will keep that in mind. Thank you for refreshing my memory on that DaughterOfApollo. I feel like I jumped ahead of myself.
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I mean against abortion, not someone, darn autocorrect. You do have fair points, but abortion is the loss of a child who could become a great person one day. I just think that everyone deserves a chance, regardless of their race, origin, IQ, or whatever factors.
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i don't know if this is still active, and i'll admit that i'm not reading everyone else's responses.
if your argument changes depending on whether the sex causing conception was consensual, then it's no longer about the fetus. a fetus conceived in unprotected, consensual sex is no different than one conceived by two committed, consensual partners who aren't interested in having a child. by your explanation those are both still babies. if you're supportive of the abortion of one but not the other, then it's not actually about the life of the fetus, it's about punishing someone for daring to have unprotected sex.
additionally, as someone who's pro-choice, it's not exclusively about allowing people to have access to abortions. it's about making sure people have comprehensive sex education from an early age in a shame-free way, and can get birth control easily, confidentially, and for either very cheap or free. i'm pro-choice because i want people to have access to family planning at every point in their lives.
if your "pro-life" argument doesn't support giving people proper access to bodily autonomy throughout their entire lives, then you're not pro-life. you're using the possibility for another life to punish a person with irreparable damage to their body, which is much more cruel than simply terminating a fetus. -
I completely agree with Pine.
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Alright, since clearly the topic of rape keeps getting brought up, I guess I should explain further as to why I didn’t want to talk about it.
The main point of this thread was because there were some things I didn’t understand as to why someone would be pro-choice. In terms of rape, I can see how you would be pro-choice in that circumstance. That doesn’t mean that I agree with it. I still believe that a life is a life no matter how it starts. I do think that if someone was raped and they got pregnant, they should give birth and either keep the baby or give it up for adoption. However, if someone was raped, I think that they should immediately go to the hospital as soon as they can and get checked out and take Plan B so a child is never conceived. But if the egg and sperm have already met, then I think you should carry that baby till the end of its term because at that point, you’re just punishing the child for the sins of the father and that child has done nothing wrong.
I also didn’t want to talk about the not so common situations as above with the girl who was raped by her father. Because those are not the majority of abortions, and again, I can see how you would be pro-choice in that sense, but I don’t think I agree with it. I 100% believe that that dad should have been thrown in jail and we should castrate him, but the baby did nothing wrong. Im not saying that these situations don’t happen, because they do, they’re just not the majority of abortions. The majority of abortions are between consenting adults, and that’s why I couldn’t understand why someone would be pro-choice and for abortions when two consenting adults should’ve known that having sex is how babies are made.
Basically, I’m like “yeah, I see where you’re coming from on that situation, but I disagree”
I agree that people need to be educated on sex. I’m all for that. Learn about contraceptives people and the different forms of birth control to stay safe. I also agree that it should be cheap to obtain. I just see abortion as murder and don’t think it should be included as one of the options.
I agree that people should have proper access to bodily autonomy throughout their whole lives. All people. You view it as a “possible” life. I see it as already a life. -
I agree with DaughterOfApollo. A life is a life.
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This is why prople who are Pro-Choice and Pro-Life will never agree. We see life at different view points.
I also see a woman's body as her's. No one should have a say what she does with it, wheither that be on the inside, or outside. -
i think the pro-life vs pro-choice argument is pretty sad. People get very emotionally and often take it very very personally when someone disagrees with them on it. It's understandable because it's an extremely important and emotional topic but i think people need to realize that almost everyone on both sides is just trying to do what they think is right. So many pro-life people think that pro-choice people just want to kill babies and so many pro-choice people think that pro-life people just want to oppress women. Very few people seem to realize that most people are just trying to do the right thing and i think that lack of understanding between opposing sides is one of the biggest problems we have today.
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I completely agree with that, Faceless Knight
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I know, but I have a question for all who are Pro-Choice. Why is a single cell generally seen as life, but a developing human being not?
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a single cell isn't seen as HUMAN life. A baby past a certain stage is.
If single cells were human life, any time someone jacks off into a tissue they're committing mass murder. -
you dont see animal cruelty activists protecting against hand sanitizer
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But a life begins at the moment of conception. A life that is human.
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