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  • OH! And FOR the record, ancient Israel was the VERY FIRST nation on record to enforce racial AND gender equality. Feel free to google "Both you and the stranger with you" for a few of the many instances of the phrase.

    Mobius_thought
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  • ..ge?
    :)

    Mobius_thought
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  • Lib-
    Did I SAY it should be restricted?

    People should just have the class not to defend the philosophies of hate speech. But it looks like that's not something you're likely to understand.

    Yes, stonings are all over the Bible. SO are the cities of refuge. Like I said, these people complaining about how Christians pick and choose are usually hypocritical, since they don't want to hear anything that punches a hole in their anti-semitic rhetoric. And that's really what it is. Your issue isn't Christians, because they don't believe in the OT. Why don't you just come right out and tell us what you think of the people that actually follow the Tanakh, so we can see you for what you are?

    OBSCURITIES ? I've read The Jungle, but I couldn't tell you the name of the meat plant. I've read Brave New World, and the Grapes of Wrath, but frankly, I couldn't tell any of the TOWN names. What are we talking about here? You're supposed to have a text memorized, in order to believe in its messa

    Mobius_thought
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  • More from mobius_thought:
    "Hate speech is okay, in the form of a quiz?"

    Yes. Hate speech is ALWAYS okay, even if it makes the speaker look like an idiot. Speech of any kind should never, ever, ever be restricted. "Hate" speech is ridiculous; it's just speech, and you have the option of not reading it/not listening to it if it offends you. You do not have the option of telling others they have no right to speak up, no matter what their opinions may be.

    "Oh, and I ESPECIALLY the love the comments berating Christians for not reading the Bible,"

    That's because most Christians haven't read the Bible--at least, not all of it. Think I'm kidding? Ask every Christian you know whether they've read the Bible cover to cover before, and then quiz them on some of its obscurities. See how familiar they are with it. You might be surprised by the results.

    "Get a life, and start defining yourselves by what you're in favor of, not what you're opposed to."

    Okay. I'm in favor of

    Lib
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  • Darkcynic wants us to read the Gospel of Luke. Hey, darkcynic, have you read Luke 19:27?

    Lib
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  • Mobius_thought, you're a moron. Stop smoking so much doob and read the Bible. The requisite stonings are all over the place.

    Lib
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  • The Bible NEVER required stonings. There were cities of refuge that anyone could go do if they were condemned to die, and they would live FREELY until the High Priest died, at which time they could return. For contrast, America has 13 people serving life sentences for cultivation of a plant that's never killed anyone. We have taken the lives, and decades from people later exonerated on DNA evidence.. so you tell me who's REALLY the cruel ones here?

    What this really comes down to is that you can never teach a person what they believe they already know.

    Does anyone talk to the Jews, to see how THEY do things, how THEY interpret or implement these passages? Since THEY'RE the only ones LIVING by the Tanakh? No, you let anyone BUT them tell you. Makes about as much sense as letting a Baptist tell you what Catholicism is about, or asking a Lutheran what the Book of Mormon teaches.

    Mobius_thought
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  • Darthcynic, im so sorry of you. Obviously you have never

    actually read the bible it seems.

    Otherwise you would remember as clearly as a Atheist heathen as me, which Jesus said: " I do not come to change the law, but to enforce it, i say whatever who do not follow the law will not be welcome in the kingdom of heaven."

    Its really dishonest when you religious wackos choose to ignore things which are unconvenient for your interests.

    Lord Zero
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  • "I kindly suggest you read the New Testament, particularly the Gospel of Luke. You might realize that Jesus disagreed with stoning and animals sacrifices, which ARE NO LONGER NECESSARY ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, and that he came "not to condemn the world, but to save it."'

    It generally comes as a package - true some try to conveniently pretend that the whacky old T does not exist, but thats dishonest slight of hand - and touted as the inerrant word of the almighty sky daddy. I'm sorry but the religiosos don't get to play pick 'n' mix when it suits them. It either - all of it - is the inerrant word of Him; or something else like a subjective collection of fabricated tales from various sources, of non specific ideas open to liberal interpretations depending on the reader. Given that the entire sorry thing is not internally consistent, often contradictory, often at odds with historical scholarship and at times just plain dumb it certainly cannot be the first option. Anything akin to t

    Darthcynic
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  • Just 92%?! I *knew* I should have put more people to death...

    holy_father
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  • Well, my Bible isn't in English, so I'll just paraphrase it. In Matthew 5:17, Jesus says something like: Don't think that I've come to revoke the law or the prophets; I have not come to revoke them, I have come to abide by them.

    I suppose that means the New Covenant doesn't revoke the law. And of course, all those of you that say times have changed don't explain why all those stonings and sacrifices and slavery were morally OK before Christ.

    It is not true that the New Testament revokes the Old Testament, and that is why a lot of Christians are so keen to abuse gay people or to say the earth is 6000 years old. The truth is if you choose which passages of the Bible you use as your moral guide, you are not really using them as your moral guide, there is another, deeper moral guide in you that tells you which you accept which you don't.

    lilyp
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  • No, G-d does not change. Read Matthew 5, or Matthew 18.

    Every thing Jesus commanded came from the Torah, with the exception of one command, which He stated was new- Love as I have loved you.

    Even the second greatest command robin_june mentions, "Love your neighbor as yourself" is from Lev 19:18, so really Christian and anti-theist alike pick and choose which Bible verses they want to focus on to make their points.

    Mobius_thought
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  • satans_right_hand_m an:

    "Somebody please quote from the New Testament where it says "all that bad stuff in the Old Testament is superseded by this new material."

    The simplest answer is Mark 14:24: "This cup is the new covenant of my blood." (It's the Last Supper, upon which the Christian ritual of Holy Communion is based.) The "old stuff" you're referring to is the old covenant, the Mosaic law. If you have the new covenant, the old covenant is unnecessary.

    So yeah, it's in there. Of course, one can debate whether it means what everybody thinks it means, and, indeed, whether or not the book of Mark is anything more than fiction, but it is there.

    calliarcale
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  • What a bunch of morons.

    Hate speech is okay, in the form of a quiz? Oh, and I ESPECIALLY the love the comments berating Christians for not reading the Bible, coming from people that are only interested in the Bible passages THEY like, that seems to prove THEIR points, JUST THE SAME as those Christians they're accusing.

    Get a life, and start defining yourselves by what you're in favor of, not what you're opposed to.

    Mobius_thought
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  • Somebody please quote from the New Testament where it says "all that bad stuff in the Old Testament is superseded by this new material."

    Yeah, didn't think so...

    satans_right_hand_man
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  • Doesn't take much to get Christians all riled up. Just throw a biblical (the old testament IS part of the Bible, since you Christians decided to keep it when you splintered from the Jews) at them and they fall apart.

    And Jesus preached different things because the world had changed. Well, I got news for you, the world has changed a lot in the last 2,000 years also, but you morons are still following that book today. Maybe you should get with the times and realize that fancy fairy tales have no bearing in the world today, since we don't need a god to explain to use why it rains, or why a volcano erupts, or why an earthquake happens. We now understand these things, and the "need" for a fairy tale to explain them is outdated.

    JPBrowning
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  • Well, supergreak, et. al., I thought the bible contained eternal truth. If god can just change his mind, then his morality is just as ephemeral as man's.

    DaftGreg
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  • i got 85%.
    MUAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAH!!! BOW TO ME!!!

    yurmom
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  • I like Shehammer's comment, because it exposes the ignorance and lack of thought exhibited by Christians.

    >Biblical times. This stuff happened in the Old Testiment, I knew all the "right" answers, but after Jesus came, in the New Testiment everything changed--He came to save us from our sins, and we live now by His grace, not the law of the Old Testiment.

    The idea that humans have inherent sin, anymore than a goat or a monkey or an aphid has inherent sin, is absurd.

    Think it through. Humans arose through the slow process of evolution. There was no Eve and Adam, no talking snake, no Tree of Knowledge, etc. As far as we know, the first humans arose from their antecedents in sub-Saharan Africa, not the present day Israel or Middle East. God did not implant the Hebrew language into Adam and Eve's heads, teach them how to make tools, build fire, and milk a cow. There were no cows when the first humans evolved.

    So no Eve and no Adam. No original sin. No need, then, for a Jesus

    idave
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  • I liked the comment about "context." When it's a stupid bible command, we need "context." When it's "You shall have no other gods before you," it doesn't need context.

    A Christian will claim their silly bible contains the inerrant words of their god. And then turn around and claim that the words have to be interpreted - sometimes. Which of course makes no sense. What makes sense, when we think it through, is that Christianity is shot through with contradictions and absurdities, and it's followers are foolish.

    idave
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  • It is so sad that so many people have been brainwashed into believing this book. They are so deluded and in denial, they can't see how completely ludicrous their whole religion is. It would be funny if it wasn't so damaging to society.

    iris123
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  • This is an abolutely rediculous quiz. Of course the answers you'd give today wouldn't be like in Biblical times. This stuff happened in the Old Testiment, I knew all the "right" answers, but after Jesus came, in the New Testiment everything changed--He came to save us from our sins, and we live now by His grace, not the law of the Old Testiment.

    Shehammer
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  • Awesome quiz. Thanks for pointing out what is actually in the Bible. So many Christians seem to have never actually read that book. It astounds me.

    sarah2165
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  • Excellent underscoring of the Old Testament (and a great way to point out how many play "cafeteria Christian" in application of religious rule). The New Testament and actual teachings of Jesus are, thankfully, much more in line with what the "right" answer should be...he said the main rules were to 1. Love God above all and 2. Love each other. The rule of love, forgiveness and seeking the spirit of the law is much easier to follow and saves the human race because all the abominations and "put to death" parts of the OT would wipe out the entire population in short order ("For ALL have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.")

    Kathleen
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  • The fact that you deliberately removed ALL the context from your quiz says more about your own morals than it does either the Torah or the Xian Bible.

    Flavia
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