Gay people can be good parents :P

Thread Topic: Gay people can be good parents :P

Carri04 Joined: Jun 15, '09 Status: Hot Shot	2011-12-01 19:43:57
	http://front.moveon.org/two-lesbians-raised-a-baby-and-this-is-what-they-got/# ;u;
Brittonio34 Joined: Mar 7, '11 Status: Junior	2011-12-03 15:26:24
	There are millions of people who have the same sucess as him who were raised by a hetero-sexual couple. I mean, the fact that you found one video of a sucessful guy being raised by gay parents is kindof insignificant. I'm sure there's more than this one. And the argument for why gay people might not be as good parents was because a child wouldn't have a father figure in their life if raised by 2 lesbians. and vice versa. The argument isn't really that gays screw up their children's thinking, they just can't support a mother and father's role. Though, I still have heard where that is the case.
barberbob2 Joined: Dec 10, '09 Status: Advanced	2011-12-05 02:38:20
	And what says they cant? What defines a "mother" or "father" role? It's all a requirement on personality and mind set. Most gay men I know, only will date guys with a feminin personality and vice versa for feminin men. The same can also be said for women. Most gay couples whether they be male or female, do actually have both roles filled. Think about it. I am a heterosexual guy. But because of my personal interests and mentality I have given fashion advice. Know how to apply makeup. Have cross dressed. Have long hair. As well as countless other things that would define me as "feminin". My closest friend is Bisexual and has called me cute before. The only issue I have with that is that he called me cute with my girlfriend right next to me and she got worried. My girlfriend plays football. Is a gamer. Knows alot about cars. Is studying engineering. and can kick my ass on a good day. The only thing I have her beat on that's concidered masculin is that i can drink her under the table. So honestly, if her and I had a child, would you say that the male and female rolls were filled simply because I was a guy and she was a girl? Or would it require something more than that?
Carri04 Joined: Jun 15, '09 Status: Hot Shot	2011-12-05 19:32:18
	Facepalm. You don't get it Britt. I knwo that damn heterosexual couples can do that is because they're considered the NORM of the world so that's insignificant also, this is to say that even gay couples can raise a child :P
Brittonio34 Joined: Mar 7, '11 Status: Junior	2011-12-05 21:09:30
	Bob- http://cleveland.ces.ncsu.edu/files/library/23/Shelby%20Star%20Importance%20of%20Fathers%206%2014%2009-1.pdf I heard of this stat from a movie I went to see. I knew you wouldn't believe me/ throw out the legitimacy of the stat, I so found it. If you look at the bottom, it shows characteristics, all which can be performed by females. But still, it is important to have 2 different characteristics dinstinguished most commonly by a man and women. Would you consider your girlfriend a tomboy? If you would say yes, you would also notice that the word "boy" is used. I think people of each sex are more likely to act like or be interested in the opposite gender in the developing stages of a person's life. (about 0-25) You don't see old people acting like the opposite gender, so I would think that once the child is born, your going to be doing the more masculine chores, while your wife would be doing the more feminine chores. It's hard to see your wife playing video games when she's older and you to continue to cross-dress. Older people drop those habits. And inherit new ones according to their gender. So back to the first paragraph, A gay couple could possibly be good parents, but that would require them to put more effort towards stressing the difference between their roles for the child. It doesn't seem likely that a gay couple would put in extra effort, considering hetero-sexual couples are struggling even with the already given differences between the 2 parents. In conclusion, since parenting nowadays sucks, and it's getting worse. It requires even more effort for gay couples to have sucess, I would say there is less of a chance for sucess amoungst children from gay couples than hetero-sexual couples. And obviously, since there's no difference between gays and straights, gays parenting skills are going downhill as well.
Brittonio34 Joined: Mar 7, '11 Status: Junior	2011-12-05 21:10:25
	Carri- Well, since every gay couple had this child, that makes sense.
Carri04 Joined: Jun 15, '09 Status: Hot Shot	2011-12-05 21:15:16
	http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/q/u/quadruplefacepalmplz.gif Had to dig this up... Reread the goddamn title. I said gay couples CAN be good parents, that one video is a good example that it's POSSIBLE.
tongue Joined: Aug 19, '08 Status: Advanced	2011-12-05 21:21:02
	You want kids to be raised by both a mother and a father? Make divorce illegal.
barberbob2 Joined: Dec 10, '09 Status: Advanced	2011-12-05 21:21:51
	Every atribute that they related to fathers are unisex and some actually appear more in a mother role. The different roles that A father are supposed to play are also unisex and arent rendered by gender. And the ideas behind single moms having bad children, no where does it state that not having a father figure is the cause of this. It says that a single parent living under the poverty line can cause it. So if you had two employed women, then they wouldnt be under the poverty line and that section becomes invalid. Sex means nothing. Absolutely nothing. People are more diverse than you're giving them credit for.
tongue Joined: Aug 19, '08 Status: Advanced	2011-12-05 21:24:46
	Well said, Bob.
Brittonio34 Joined: Mar 7, '11 Status: Junior	2011-12-05 21:37:40
	tongue- I think parents should at all possible try to preserve marriage. I would think you would aree Carri- I realize, what I was getting at was that it's less likely for gay couples to have sucess with children than hetero-sexual. Bob- I already stated that. I also disagree with the second staement. Since mothers and fathers have been the base for a child since the beginning of time, I'll use sex as a loose definition for the roles of the family. You can't ignore my concept of how gays must work harder to have the same sucess of a hetero-sexual couple.
barberbob2 Joined: Dec 10, '09 Status: Advanced	2011-12-05 22:08:43
	yes I can. "since mothers and fathers have been the base for a child since the beginning of time, I'll use sex as a loose definition for the roles of the family." So let me get this straight. Since humanity has been prmarily one way for all of recorded history, then people who dont fall into that criteria wont do as well as those who do? Humanity has taken a major step forward. One sex no longer is subservient to the other. Sex based rolls are deminishing because it isnt required. Men dont have to be tough because the warrior mentality isnt needed any more. And women dont have to be sensitive because the stay at home mom is dissapearing. The only reasons that these stereotypes still exist is because humanity is slow to break old habits.
Brittonio34 Joined: Mar 7, '11 Status: Junior	2011-12-05 22:26:51
	With the greater acception for gay rights and a new doctrine for the Presbytyrian USA, I think a new era has come about. And it's quite obvious.
barberbob2 Joined: Dec 10, '09 Status: Advanced	2011-12-05 22:30:00
	I agree. So what are you getting at?
Brittonio34 Joined: Mar 7, '11 Status: Junior	2011-12-05 22:35:29
	They are therefore accepted into society and could be placed under my idea.